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    Doug Sanders Guest

    Default Anybody else hate the search system?

    I bypassed the Vista OS, and stuck with XP til now.

    Is this Search routine the only option? It brings up all kinds of
    mismatches and items when all I want is to find the file with the name I
    typed into the 'Search' box.

    Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?

    Thanks,

    Doug Sanders

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    Augustus Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?



    "Doug Sanders" <dougsix@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:9oCdncsYdaiyua3WnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
    > I bypassed the Vista OS, and stuck with XP til now.
    >
    > Is this Search routine the only option? It brings up all kinds of
    > mismatches and items when all I want is to find the file with the name I
    > typed into the 'Search' box.
    >
    > Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Doug Sanders


    No. Since the Windows 7 search actually takes the trouble to categorize the
    finds in separate headings (documents, music, programs, control panel, etc)
    and narrows the search based on the details of search parameters provided
    (by you) it's hard to see how this is viewed as a negative thing. It's
    lightning fast and includes more useful hits. It's system overhead is
    minimal plus it's vastly superior to the XP search which basically could
    find next to nothing and in many cases would return zero results even with a
    known file name or extension. It's vastly improved over Vista as well, fwiw.


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    Speaking in silver Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?

    "Doug Sanders" <dougsix@earthlink.net> wrote
    > I bypassed the Vista OS, and stuck with XP til now.
    >
    > Is this Search routine the only option? It brings up all kinds of
    > mismatches and items when all I want is to find the file with the name I
    > typed into the 'Search' box.
    >
    > Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?


    You may like Everything, which is freeware and works fine:
    http://www.voidtools.com/

    The best part is you can also disable the annoying Search an Indexing
    Services running in the background of Windows 7. To disable these services,
    type in the Run dialog box: services.msc > Select the service > Right-click
    on properties and disable.

    After testing that my system ran fine with these services disabled, I
    decided to uninstall them completely: Control Panel> Programs> Programs and
    features> Select Windows features on or off > Uncheck Windows Search and
    Index Server.

    I was surprised how much memory and CPU time was freed up. Now I have a good
    searching tool and a faster system too.


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    Allen Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?

    Doug Sanders wrote:
    > I bypassed the Vista OS, and stuck with XP til now.
    >
    > Is this Search routine the only option? It brings up all kinds of
    > mismatches and items when all I want is to find the file with the name I
    > typed into the 'Search' box.
    >
    > Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Doug Sanders

    It's the worst search system I've ever used. Vista's search was far, far
    superior--one of the few things I liked about Vista. The W7 search is
    slow, slow, slow, sometimes doesn't find things that I know are
    there--generally pathetic. Someone posted a link here to
    FileSeek--forgot his name, unfortunately, plus the link--but look in
    Google and try the free download. I think you'll like it.
    Allen

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    Augustus Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?

    > I was surprised how much memory and CPU time was freed up. Now I have a
    > good searching tool and a faster system too.


    Yes, I'd be surprised too. In Windows 7 64 searchindexer.exe uses about
    20Mb of kernel RAM for the process and what is basically an immeasurable
    amount of CPU time. With the process killed there's no meaurable difference
    in CPU usage. Your program uses 10Mb of kernel and is incapable of doing
    most of what the Windows 7 search engine does. There's a whole lot of other
    things this program can't and won't do. It's easy to be fast when you're
    doing essentially nothing. But you save 0.5% of your RAM on a 2 Gig system
    and a whopping .25% on a 4 gig system. You are a deliberate troll.


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    Rene Lamontagne Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?

    Doug Sanders wrote:
    > I bypassed the Vista OS, and stuck with XP til now.
    >
    > Is this Search routine the only option? It brings up all kinds of
    > mismatches and items when all I want is to find the file with the name I
    > typed into the 'Search' box.
    >
    > Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Doug Sanders

    I hate it also. it never seems to be able to find any file that I
    type in, the old system was much better, I need something better than this.

    Regards, Rene

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    SC Tom Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?


    "Doug Sanders" <dougsix@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:9oCdncsYdaiyua3WnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
    >I bypassed the Vista OS, and stuck with XP til now.
    >
    > Is this Search routine the only option? It brings up all kinds of
    > mismatches and items when all I want is to find the file with the name I
    > typed into the 'Search' box.
    >
    > Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Doug Sanders


    I don't mind the Win7 search engine, but hated the Vista one. XP was OK, but
    I wanted something better for it, too, so I got Agent Ransack.
    http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/
    It works very well in all 3 OS's and is a freebie.
    --
    SC Tom


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    DougS Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?

    Hate? No, but I am disappointed with the Windows 7 desktop search system and
    sometimes get fed up watching the green bar crawling from left to right that
    seems to slow down even more beyond 90%.

    I would would be tempted to use Copernic were it not that it does not appear
    to support (or even acknowledge the existence of) Win 7 or Windows Live
    mail.

    If there is a way of speeding up the Win 7 search or a good replacement for
    it I would be glad to hear of it.

    DougS (not Sanders)

    "Doug Sanders" <dougsix@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:9oCdncsYdaiyua3WnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
    > I bypassed the Vista OS, and stuck with XP til now.
    >
    > Is this Search routine the only option? It brings up all kinds of
    > mismatches and items when all I want is to find the file with the name I
    > typed into the 'Search' box.
    >
    > Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Doug Sanders



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    Jeff Gaines Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?

    On 22/12/2009 in message <9oCdncsYdaiyua3WnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@earthlink.com>
    Doug Sanders wrote:

    >Is there a better way or a fall back to the earlier versions?


    I am trying File Seek:
    http://www.binaryfortress.com/fileseek/

    and Agent Ransack:
    http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

    both free and both very much better than the Win7 search.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks

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    Speaking in silver Guest

    Default Re: Anybody else hate the search system?

    "Augustus" <gehenna@telusplanet.net>wrote
    >> I was surprised how much memory and CPU time was freed up. Now I have a
    >> good searching tool and a faster system too.

    >
    > Yes, I'd be surprised too.


    Please stop lying and confusing people. Windows Search is slow, heavy and
    malfunctioning. After hours and hours of indexing, it just won't find some
    existing files, and will return some random results that don't match the
    typed search string. It's really hard to do worse than that: A useless
    waste of time and resources.

    Here's an independent review of "Everything":
    http://www.freewaregenius.com/2008/1...r-ntfs-drives/
    "fastest desktop search program (for files and folder names)"
    "beats the pants off of Windows' default search function"

    Pros: Fastest in the world. You get your results while you're typing.
    Cons: Only works with NTFS drives. Only files and folder names.

    For people who don't care so much about speed, but need some advanced
    options (like searching inside files), these are good alternatives:
    - Fileseek
    - Agentransack
    - Locate32

    There's one for every user.
    And of course, there's also Microsoft Lurch for people like you.
    Happy to see that you're happy with what you have to be happy with :-P


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