Thread: Security Status Bar Missing in IE8

Hello again:

I was able to get that padlock icon to remain in Google mail after the login
by disabling the WOT (Web of Trust) add-on.

I realized this when I found it remained visible when IE was in Safe Mode.
By trial and error, it was the WOT add-on that appears to have made that
icon disappear. Odd...

In Yahoo email, its different. The Yahoo log- in page shows the padlock, but
once I go to Yahoo mail, it goes away even with WOT disabled. However, this
might be a bit different from Google mail in that same happens in Firefox
with Yahoo mail in terms of the padlock on bottom of page there. Google
Calendar is the same. They disappear once the log in is achieved.

-eli

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"eli" <someone@somebody.com> wrote in message
news:%230H1XHI%23KHA.1892@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> yes, several times since installing that root certificate update.
>
> -eli
>
> ********************
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:enGZNWF%23KHA.5592@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Have you rebooted yet?
>>
>> eli wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> The URL is that plus a suffix : shva=1#
>>>
>>> I installed that root certificates update, but that padlock icon still
>>> disappears after the gmail is loaded
>>>
>>> -eli
>>>
>>> ******************************
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23MqudPD%23KHA.4768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> After you've signed in to Gmail, is the URL (still)
>>>> https://mail.google.com?
>>>>
>>>> Open Internet Explorer (only) to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com OR
>>>> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate | Select CUSTOM and scan |
>>>> Install any Critical Security Updates offered (e.g., KB980182). If a
>>>> Root
>>>> Certificates update is listed in the Optional Software updates category
>>>> on
>>>> the left-hand side of the scan results window, install it to take full
>>>> advantage of IE8's enhanced security.
>>>>
>>>> Test.
>>>>
>>>> eli wrote:
>>>>> On the other hand, when I go to my phone bill account and banking
>>>>> account,
>>>>> the padlock icom remains. So perhaps this is as it should be. Its
>>>>> gmail,
>>>>> google claendar and yahoo email in which the padlock is there at
>>>>> login
>>>>> page, but disapears once login is completed and email is drawn up..
>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, when I go to G Mail and am not yet logged in, I see the
>>>>>> padlock to the right of the address bar, but once I'm signed in and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> email is viewable, the padlock icon disappears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which setting do I need to readjust , if that icon should remain
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> after the page loads?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the icon disappears, then something in the page is not being
>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>> securely. There might be an image, for instance, being pulled from a
>>>>>>> non-secure URL. IE only shows the padlock if everything on the page
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> being viewed securely. Normally IE will warn you if you are viewing
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> site that contains unsecure content and asks you if you want to view
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> without the non-secure parts loaded, just pick the right option to
>>>>>>> retain
>>>>>>> padlock (although some elements of the page may then not be loaded).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes..I'm seeing it on some sites, such as email and where I pay
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> phone bill...But the icon disappears once I'm sign in. I guess
>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>> how it is meant to be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make sure that the (unspecified example) site you are visiting is
>>>>>>>>> properly secure. You won't see that feature if it isn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I installed IE8 about two days ago, and I don't see the security
>>>>>>>>>> status icon near the addres bar, where I believe it should be. I
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> longer see the locked icon near address of a secure site. Nor do
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>> a way to get "more inof about this site" by right-clicking on the
>>>>>>>>>> address bar icon.
>>>>>>>>>> How can I get these back?
>>
>
>

WOT (www.mywot.com) installed here and cannot reproduce this behavior.

Given your posting history in various MS newsgroups (which is pretty
difficult to determine specifically since you post using the common email
alias someone@somebody.com with usernames like 'eli' & 'ira' & yes, I have a
pretty good memory), I think you may have been dealing with an infected
computer for the year or so. Of course YMMV but your best bet may be as
follows:

Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT
fix this!

HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307

After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) and
before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been
freshly formatted:

4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx

Other helpful references include:

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
(after a clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5afa8ed33e121c

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a
clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66ae41add7dd2b

Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029
manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029

NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the computer
when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is
reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the
appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows Service
Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus application
(which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed).

Norton Removal Tool
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...moval_Tool.exe

McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool
http://download.mcafee.com/products/...tches/MCPR.exe

Also see:

Risks & Benefits of P2P file sharing
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/dat...lesharing.aspx
http://blogs.technet.com/mmpc/archiv...-software.aspx

Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/security/spyware/prevent.aspx

Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
http://www.microsoft.com/security/worms/prevent.aspx

Avoid Rogue Security Software!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/rogue.aspx

If these procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting
this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop.

Best of luck. Over & out.
--
~PA Bear

eli wrote:
> Hello again:
>
> I was able to get that padlock icon to remain in Google mail after the
> login
> by disabling the WOT (Web of Trust) add-on.
>
> I realized this when I found it remained visible when IE was in Safe Mode.
> By trial and error, it was the WOT add-on that appears to have made that
> icon disappear. Odd...
>
> In Yahoo email, its different. The Yahoo log- in page shows the padlock,
> but
> once I go to Yahoo mail, it goes away even with WOT disabled. However,
> this
> might be a bit different from Google mail in that same happens in Firefox
> with Yahoo mail in terms of the padlock on bottom of page there. Google
> Calendar is the same. They disappear once the log in is achieved.
>
> -eli
>
> *********************************
>
>
>
> "eli" <someone@somebody.com> wrote in message
> news:%230H1XHI%23KHA.1892@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> yes, several times since installing that root certificate update.
>>
>> -eli
>>
>> ********************
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:enGZNWF%23KHA.5592@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Have you rebooted yet?
>>>
>>> eli wrote:
>>>> Hi:
>>>>
>>>> The URL is that plus a suffix : shva=1#
>>>>
>>>> I installed that root certificates update, but that padlock icon still
>>>> disappears after the gmail is loaded
>>>>
>>>> -eli
>>>>
>>>> ******************************
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23MqudPD%23KHA.4768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> After you've signed in to Gmail, is the URL (still)
>>>>> https://mail.google.com?
>>>>>
>>>>> Open Internet Explorer (only) to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com OR
>>>>> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate | Select CUSTOM and scan |
>>>>> Install any Critical Security Updates offered (e.g., KB980182). If a
>>>>> Root
>>>>> Certificates update is listed in the Optional Software updates
>>>>> category
>>>>> on
>>>>> the left-hand side of the scan results window, install it to take full
>>>>> advantage of IE8's enhanced security.
>>>>>
>>>>> Test.
>>>>>
>>>>> eli wrote:
>>>>>> On the other hand, when I go to my phone bill account and banking
>>>>>> account,
>>>>>> the padlock icom remains. So perhaps this is as it should be. Its
>>>>>> gmail,
>>>>>> google claendar and yahoo email in which the padlock is there at
>>>>>> login
>>>>>> page, but disapears once login is completed and email is drawn up..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example, when I go to G Mail and am not yet logged in, I see the
>>>>>>> padlock to the right of the address bar, but once I'm signed in and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> email is viewable, the padlock icon disappears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which setting do I need to readjust , if that icon should remain
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> after the page loads?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the icon disappears, then something in the page is not being
>>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>>> securely. There might be an image, for instance, being pulled from
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> non-secure URL. IE only shows the padlock if everything on the page
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> being viewed securely. Normally IE will warn you if you are viewing
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> site that contains unsecure content and asks you if you want to
>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> without the non-secure parts loaded, just pick the right option to
>>>>>>>> retain
>>>>>>>> padlock (although some elements of the page may then not be
>>>>>>>> loaded).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes..I'm seeing it on some sites, such as email and where I pay
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> phone bill...But the icon disappears once I'm sign in. I guess
>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>> how it is meant to be?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Make sure that the (unspecified example) site you are visiting is
>>>>>>>>>> properly secure. You won't see that feature if it isn't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I installed IE8 about two days ago, and I don't see the security
>>>>>>>>>>> status icon near the addres bar, where I believe it should be. I
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> longer see the locked icon near address of a secure site. Nor do
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>> a way to get "more inof about this site" by right-clicking on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> address bar icon.
>>>>>>>>>>> How can I get these back?