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  1. #1
    Mattie A Guest

    Default Re: Back Arrow Doesn't Return to Right Place

    I couldn't agree more strongly with Dworsky. IE8 is a pain in the butt
    because of this. It doesn't have anything to do with add-ons, because I
    bought a new computer and it is doing what Dworsky describes.

    And, to make your users open new windows or tabs every time rather than use
    the Back button, just means that IE8 is not as user-friendly, nor apparently,
    is it trying to be user-friendly if the solution is: "deal with it, open new
    windows" as opposed to just going back to the way it was before, which was
    much more user-friendly.

    "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

    >
    > "Dworsky" <Dworsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E80E0941-6858-4707-8A7B-4641496A33F9@microsoft.com...
    > >I installed IE8 yesterday, and immediately removed it because of the
    > > following problem:
    > >
    > > Let's say you search Google or Yahoo and get a list of 100 results on a
    > > single page. Half way down the list long list, I click on a link. After
    > > viewing that site, I click the back arrow in IE8 and while it takes me back
    > > to the 100 result list, it does NOT bring me back to the spot I was at, but
    > > rather to the top of the page. I have to start going down the list again to
    > > find the place where I left off.
    > >

    >
    > > Going back to the exact spot you were looking at on a webpage has been a
    > > feature of all browsers for years. How in the world could MSFT not do that
    > > with IE8?

    >
    >
    > That wouldn't be a change in IE8 in any case.
    > If you want to ensure that you don't lose position in
    > a page that you know you want to go back to
    > open the link in a new tab or window and then close
    > that tab or window to go back to the (unchanged,
    > unless auto-refresh occurred in the background)
    > launching page. BTW both Google and Live Search
    > provide for this method of using results links in their
    > respective user profiles (as saved by their cookies)
    > so you don't even need to do something explicit
    > to open a new tab or window as you use their results links.
    >
    >
    > >
    > > Thanks,

    >
    >
    > HTH
    >
    > Robert Aldwinckle
    > ---
    >
    >
    >


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  3. #2
    VanguardLH Guest

    Default Re: Back Arrow Doesn't Return to Right Place

    Mattie A relied to an old thread:

    Google Groups copy of old thread: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaweobm

    Mattie, you are agreeing with a "me too" post to a thread that is over
    9 months old!

    > I couldn't agree more strongly with Dworsky. IE8 is a pain in the butt
    > because of this.


    "This" is the Back button not taking you to the prior web page at the
    position to where you were scrolled before leaving that page.

    > It doesn't have anything to do with add-ons,


    No, but it does have to do with which site you visit but never mentioned.
    Any site can force a document [re]paint to start wherever they like. For
    example, they may force a reload of the page. How do you know the site
    isn't itself using code to force a new load of the document or moving you to
    its top?

    As an example, I go to http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=1647.0.
    Scroll down a couple pages. Now enter www.intel.com in the address bar.
    After opening the Intel web page, hit the Back button (you may have to twice
    hit the Back button). Where are you? You are back to the avast forum page
    AND down to where you scrolled.

    When I do a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=intel) and scroll
    to the bottom, enter intel.com in the address bar, click the Back button
    (twice because of how Intel navigates to a 2nd page), I'm still at the
    bottom of Google's search page.

    So with what web page are you having difficulties?

  4. #3
    mikel13 Guest

    Default Re: Back Arrow Doesn't Return to Right Place

    Look at this list:
    http://www.daylily.com/cgi-bin/aucti...tivarsaunder20

    scroll down the list, open up and item and then arrow back....IE 8 takes you
    back to the top of the page rather than where you were.

    Try the same thing with the latest Firefox or Safari....no problem.

    This is a Microsoft problem and it is new.



    "VanguardLH" wrote:

    > Mattie A relied to an old thread:
    >
    > Google Groups copy of old thread: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaweobm
    >
    > Mattie, you are agreeing with a "me too" post to a thread that is over
    > 9 months old!
    >
    > > I couldn't agree more strongly with Dworsky. IE8 is a pain in the butt
    > > because of this.

    >
    > "This" is the Back button not taking you to the prior web page at the
    > position to where you were scrolled before leaving that page.
    >
    > > It doesn't have anything to do with add-ons,

    >
    > No, but it does have to do with which site you visit but never mentioned.
    > Any site can force a document [re]paint to start wherever they like. For
    > example, they may force a reload of the page. How do you know the site
    > isn't itself using code to force a new load of the document or moving you to
    > its top?
    >
    > As an example, I go to http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=1647.0.
    > Scroll down a couple pages. Now enter www.intel.com in the address bar.
    > After opening the Intel web page, hit the Back button (you may have to twice
    > hit the Back button). Where are you? You are back to the avast forum page
    > AND down to where you scrolled.
    >
    > When I do a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=intel) and scroll
    > to the bottom, enter intel.com in the address bar, click the Back button
    > (twice because of how Intel navigates to a 2nd page), I'm still at the
    > bottom of Google's search page.
    >
    > So with what web page are you having difficulties?
    > .
    >


  5. #4
    mikel13 Guest

    Default Re: Back Arrow Doesn't Return to Right Place

    While there are web pages that work OK, for what ever reason, the back arrow
    definitely does not work properly on some pages...and this is definitely
    new. And the new Firefox an Safari browsers do not have this problem. This is
    a microsoft NEW problem.

    Look at this list......


    scrolll down, open aup the auction and arrow back:
    Try doing the same thing with Firefox or Safari....

    Big difference.


    "VanguardLH" wrote:

    > Mattie A relied to an old thread:
    >
    > Google Groups copy of old thread: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaweobm
    >
    > Mattie, you are agreeing with a "me too" post to a thread that is over
    > 9 months old!
    >
    > > I couldn't agree more strongly with Dworsky. IE8 is a pain in the butt
    > > because of this.

    >
    > "This" is the Back button not taking you to the prior web page at the
    > position to where you were scrolled before leaving that page.
    >
    > > It doesn't have anything to do with add-ons,

    >
    > No, but it does have to do with which site you visit but never mentioned.
    > Any site can force a document [re]paint to start wherever they like. For
    > example, they may force a reload of the page. How do you know the site
    > isn't itself using code to force a new load of the document or moving you to
    > its top?
    >
    > As an example, I go to http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=1647.0.
    > Scroll down a couple pages. Now enter www.intel.com in the address bar.
    > After opening the Intel web page, hit the Back button (you may have to twice
    > hit the Back button). Where are you? You are back to the avast forum page
    > AND down to where you scrolled.
    >
    > When I do a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=intel) and scroll
    > to the bottom, enter intel.com in the address bar, click the Back button
    > (twice because of how Intel navigates to a 2nd page), I'm still at the
    > bottom of Google's search page.
    >
    > So with what web page are you having difficulties?
    > .
    >


  6. #5
    rob^_^ Guest

    Default Re: Back Arrow Doesn't Return to Right Place

    Hi,

    They are refreshing from the server.

    Regards.

    "mikel13" <mikel13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:FAA6E3F1-327C-409D-A24D-5AE785C6612E@microsoft.com...
    > Look at this list:
    > http://www.daylily.com/cgi-bin/aucti...tivarsaunder20
    >
    > scroll down the list, open up and item and then arrow back....IE 8 takes
    > you
    > back to the top of the page rather than where you were.
    >
    > Try the same thing with the latest Firefox or Safari....no problem.
    >
    > This is a Microsoft problem and it is new.
    >
    >
    >
    > "VanguardLH" wrote:
    >
    >> Mattie A relied to an old thread:
    >>
    >> Google Groups copy of old thread: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaweobm
    >>
    >> Mattie, you are agreeing with a "me too" post to a thread that is over
    >> 9 months old!
    >>
    >> > I couldn't agree more strongly with Dworsky. IE8 is a pain in the butt
    >> > because of this.

    >>
    >> "This" is the Back button not taking you to the prior web page at the
    >> position to where you were scrolled before leaving that page.
    >>
    >> > It doesn't have anything to do with add-ons,

    >>
    >> No, but it does have to do with which site you visit but never mentioned.
    >> Any site can force a document [re]paint to start wherever they like. For
    >> example, they may force a reload of the page. How do you know the site
    >> isn't itself using code to force a new load of the document or moving you
    >> to
    >> its top?
    >>
    >> As an example, I go to http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=1647.0.
    >> Scroll down a couple pages. Now enter www.intel.com in the address bar.
    >> After opening the Intel web page, hit the Back button (you may have to
    >> twice
    >> hit the Back button). Where are you? You are back to the avast forum
    >> page
    >> AND down to where you scrolled.
    >>
    >> When I do a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=intel) and
    >> scroll
    >> to the bottom, enter intel.com in the address bar, click the Back button
    >> (twice because of how Intel navigates to a 2nd page), I'm still at the
    >> bottom of Google's search page.
    >>
    >> So with what web page are you having difficulties?
    >> .
    >>


  7. #6
    rob^_^ Guest

    Default Re: Back Arrow Doesn't Return to Right Place

    Oh, and only 800 odd markup errors.

    http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...tivarsaunder20

    Junk in junk out.

    Disable caching in Chrome, FX or Opera and you will get the same experience.

    Regards.

    "mikel13" <mikel13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:FAA6E3F1-327C-409D-A24D-5AE785C6612E@microsoft.com...
    > Look at this list:
    > http://www.daylily.com/cgi-bin/aucti...tivarsaunder20
    >
    > scroll down the list, open up and item and then arrow back....IE 8 takes
    > you
    > back to the top of the page rather than where you were.
    >
    > Try the same thing with the latest Firefox or Safari....no problem.
    >
    > This is a Microsoft problem and it is new.
    >
    >
    >
    > "VanguardLH" wrote:
    >
    >> Mattie A relied to an old thread:
    >>
    >> Google Groups copy of old thread: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaweobm
    >>
    >> Mattie, you are agreeing with a "me too" post to a thread that is over
    >> 9 months old!
    >>
    >> > I couldn't agree more strongly with Dworsky. IE8 is a pain in the butt
    >> > because of this.

    >>
    >> "This" is the Back button not taking you to the prior web page at the
    >> position to where you were scrolled before leaving that page.
    >>
    >> > It doesn't have anything to do with add-ons,

    >>
    >> No, but it does have to do with which site you visit but never mentioned.
    >> Any site can force a document [re]paint to start wherever they like. For
    >> example, they may force a reload of the page. How do you know the site
    >> isn't itself using code to force a new load of the document or moving you
    >> to
    >> its top?
    >>
    >> As an example, I go to http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=1647.0.
    >> Scroll down a couple pages. Now enter www.intel.com in the address bar.
    >> After opening the Intel web page, hit the Back button (you may have to
    >> twice
    >> hit the Back button). Where are you? You are back to the avast forum
    >> page
    >> AND down to where you scrolled.
    >>
    >> When I do a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=intel) and
    >> scroll
    >> to the bottom, enter intel.com in the address bar, click the Back button
    >> (twice because of how Intel navigates to a 2nd page), I'm still at the
    >> bottom of Google's search page.
    >>
    >> So with what web page are you having difficulties?
    >> .
    >>


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